In the aftermath of the 2016 presidential election, many have debated how Democrats can communicate in a way that motivates our base while also appealing to voters in the middle who are equally crucial to electoral success.

On this week’s episode of Achieve Great Things, RJ sits down with Lanae Erickson Hatalsky, Vice President of Social Policy and Politics at Third Way, a Washington, D.C. think tank. She talks about how the conversation in Washington doesn’t mirror people’s concerns for their everyday lives, and why Democrats can’t afford to talk to Trump voters like they’re Steve Bannon. People can receive very different messages from the same information — and younger, less polarized leadership could be key to reaching across traditional divides.

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